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From: rjb@akgua.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: some questions
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Date: Thu, 30-Aug-84 13:50:00 EDT
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Posted: Thu Aug 30 13:50:00 1984
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>Recently, a man was killed by a gang of four teenage youth who were
>involved in the game of "queer bashing".  Why?  Where did they learn
>that it is OK to beat up "queers" and kill them?  Who taught them
>that "fags" are not people?
>
>Was it their mothers, who taught them this?  One of the punks' mother
>says, refering to her son, "I thought he was such a good human being."
>Was it their fathers, who taught them to hate people who are different?
>Did the idea that gay people are less than human come from the preacher
>or from the police?  Many of those people are involved in the continued
>opression of gays, did their hatred flow into these boys?
>
>Will you teach your children that gays are bad, and may freely be
>killed?  Will you do it overtly, or will it just be an accident?
>
>Is there a difference?
>
>Richard Brower		Fortune Systems
>{ihnp4,ucbvax!amd,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!brower

First of all, I think your "Are you still beating your wife ?"
rhetorical style is getting in the way of some serious thinking
by you on the matter.

Queer bashing and the more traditional forms of minority harrassment
like cross burning and lynching are not necessarily blameable (sp ?)
offenses wrt "institutions" like the police or the clergy.  I think
these stem from home grown attitudes that eventually permeate the
culture and thus the institutions that people are a part of.

I teach my children that gays are suffering from a delusion that is
closely tied in with a moral problem.  BTW my definition of a delusion
is faulty understanding about something that is in itself legitimate -
like sexuality.  I teach them that they should not permit sexual 
liberties to be taken with them by ANYONE male or female.  And finally
I teach them to be physically gentle, to turn the cheek, go the extra
mile, but that it is OK - even required at some point to resist 
physical agression.

Homosexuality is clearly outlined as sinful in the Bible and if
that book is authoritative for you then you should transmit the
many concepts both positive and negative contained in it.

Certainly, queer bashing has no part in modern day Christianity.

"Yeah I know, I know, Torquemada, The Crusades, etc. 
 I hereby consign all flames to the flames..."



Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb}