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From: rjb@akgua.UUCP
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Subject: Re:Re: Some Questions
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Date: Mon, 10-Sep-84 09:30:53 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep 10 09:30:53 1984
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>From the recent exchanges between Mr. Brower and me.
Bob Brown = >
Richard Brower = >>

>I teach my children that gays are suffering from a delusion that is
>closely tied in with a moral problem.  BTW my definition of a delusion
>is faulty understanding about something that is in itself legitimate -
>like sexuality.  I teach them that they should not permit sexual 
>liberties to be taken with them by ANYONE male or female.  And finally
>I teach them to be physically gentle, to turn the cheek, go the extra
>mile, but that it is OK - even required at some point to resist 
>physical agression.

>>Here is the meat of discrimination!  By assigning the terms "delusion"
>>and "moral problem", you insinuate that I am not in control of myself
>>(suffering from delusion) and that I am am evil (a moral problem).
>>What you should teach about homosexuality is, in your case, that you are
>>biased of the subject, or at most that it is a lifestyle that *you*
>>cannot subscribe to, but that some people do subscribe to it and that those
>>who do so are as good and kind and loving as anyone else and deserve to
>>be treated with the same respect that any other person is.  I agree that
>>you should teach them to resist *physical agression* and certainly
>>not allow themselves to be treated in any manner that they do wish to
>>treated in.  Notice that I pointed out the term "physical agression".

I apologize about my insinuations but what I believe and teach about
homosexuality is just what I said.  It is what I believe based on my
life's experiences and what I understand about God's word.  I believe
and teach the same about adultery which would be (in my mind) a 
comaparable delusion and moral problem.

The illogical jump you make is that because I believe that you are
deluded and wrong is that I would advocate or applaud those who
would do you violence.  I think your unfortunate experience with
disrespect and mistreatment should not be generalized to all who
oppose your position.  One of the oldest cliches in Christendom is
"Hate the sin but love the sinner" which is another principle I try
to impart to my kids.

BTW there is almost no way I can express my thought contained in
the last sentence without it sounding self righteous in print.
It's not meant that way.




Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb}