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From: segs@mhuxv.UUCP (slusky)
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Subject: Re: Law of Return
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Date: Wed, 29-Aug-84 09:51:05 EDT
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Posted: Wed Aug 29 09:51:05 1984
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Yiri Ben David says:
>The credentials of the officiating rabbi is checked for all converts
>applying to make aliyah. If the rabbi in question is not among the
>registry of orthodox rabbis then the convert is not a Jew for purposes
>of the Law of Return - as well as for purposes of marriage in Israel,
>and the children of such a marriage are not recognized as Jews in
>Israel.

I presume that you mean that the children of an invalid female convert
are not recognized as Jews in Israel. Certainly the children of a born-
Jewish mother and an invalid made-Jewish father are recognized as Jews,
aren't they? This would be true even if no conversion took place and
the father a practicing something-else.

>Similarly, the officiating rabbi is checked for marriages and
>non-orthodox marriages are not recognized in Israel - and so the
>children are not recognized as Jews in Israel.

Again, this doesn't ring true. The children of Jews are Jews whether or
not the parents are married. Of course, the kids may be mamzerim if
the mother is halakhically married to someone else. But they're still Jews.

Also, I take it that you are describing the way the situation would be if
the words according to halacha were added in. Either that or the fellow
who wrote in saying that the examination of conversion papers for
citizenship is usually done by none-too-picky secular Israelis 
was wrong.
					Susan Slusky
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