Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site lanl-a.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!seismo!cmcl2!lanl-a!wkp From: wkp@lanl-a.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: More Law of Return Message-ID: <12849@lanl-a.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-Aug-84 12:10:57 EDT Article-I.D.: lanl-a.12849 Posted: Fri Aug 31 12:10:57 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 3-Sep-84 19:39:20 EDT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 35 In reply to Yirmiyahu Ben-David's article on the Law of Return, I feel that some points need to be cleared up: A convert to Judaism making aliyah at no time deals with the Rabbanut in Israel. His papers are cleared through the offices of the Jewish Agency and the Israel Aliyah Center. Invariably, these personnel are less religious, and hence less concerned about halacha. The result of such a policy can be illustrated by a Hungarian friend of mine in Israel (if he's still there) who made aliyah in 1981, became a citizen and served in the army. However, when he wished to get married he hd to go the Rabbanutt in Jerusalem, who promptly dismissed his conversion because they did not trust the rabbi who had converted him. Fortunately, there are not many cases like this, but there are enough so that the religious parties want more of a say in aliyah. It should be emphasized, however, that if a convert went to Israel already married, there would be almost no instance when he/she would have to deal with the Rabbanut. I also cannot agree with Yirmiyahu's statement that the religious people are that concerned about their own children marrying these "goyim" because they (e.g., my cousin in Kfar Chabad) would not even marry a "baal tshuva" (a Jew who became religious) much less any kind of convert, religous or otherwise. Finally, I feel that it is unfortunate that the religious parties (e.g., Kahana's Kach party) have such a say in the Knesset. Though I am sympathetic to their ideals, I feel that many of them are hypocritical and too eager to use the lives of young Jewish people to further their own selfish aims. bill peter los alamos The Mafdal people in Israel (national religious parties) wish to extend their control of the marriage