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From: saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley)
Newsgroups: net.singles,net.motss,net.women
Subject: Re: Final Observations
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Date: Thu, 23-Aug-84 10:03:51 EDT
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Posted: Thu Aug 23 10:03:51 1984
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From: ted@teldata.UUCP

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>My sojourn on the net is coming to an end.  In thinking back over the year
>or so that I have been on the net I am left with the following impressions:
>
>Bigotry abounds (this is not limited to the net).  The bigotry I am
>referring to is that exercised by the feminists and the gays.  If one
>disagrees with one of these people the response is often "You men are all
>alike" or "You straights are all alike". Is this not the same type of
>stereotyping that the feminists and gay rights are trying to overcome?  In
>many cases no disagreement is required, the assumption of many feminists is,
>"If you are a man you are against me".  How is this different from "If you
>are a woman you are incapable of ...."?

What Ted forgot to mention is that a lot of the "bigotry exercised by feminists
and gays" were in response to bigotry from masculists and straight.  Of course
2 wrongs don't make a right, but credit for bigotry should be given to those who
deserve it.  In the case of net.women, it has been equally shared between
different factions, in the case of net.motss, I think the bigotry has come
mostly from the "straight" side:  in fact I cannot recall one single instance
of "you straights are all alike" coming from any gay participants.

>Am I mistaken or does immaturity run rampant on the net?  My impression is
>that a lot of contributors and respondents on the net are quite adolescent
>in their attitudes and beliefs.
>
>Is there a new protocol for winning others over to your point of view?  One
>that opens with referring to the other party as "You bigotted asshole!"?
>Does the younger generation really get positive results with this approach?
>
>Since I am leaving I will not be able to recieve mail or responses on the net.

Ted, of course is quite mature.  Sending a letter off that says: "here's my
last word, you are all a bunch of immature biggots, but I won't listen to
your replies, so there, nyah nyah!!!" is a very mature thing to do.  I think
I'll stick with my youthful immaturity, thank you.

>If you must reply: (206) 743-3890 or P.O.Box 153, Bothell, WA 98012

No, Ted, I "must" reply, but not to you.  I don't think you would care to listen
to any replies from the "younger generation" anyway, especially since I have
just called you a biggot and used the approach you mentioned.  But, at least,
I admit I am immature, so that's my last word to you, and you won't be able to
answer me, NYAH, NYAH-NYAH-NYAAAAAAH, NYAH!!!!

Sophie Quigley
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