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From: forys@sunybcs.UUCP (Jeff Forys)
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Subject: RE: Re: External appearances
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Date: Fri, 7-Sep-84 00:06:31 EDT
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Posted: Fri Sep  7 00:06:31 1984
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From mokhtar@ubc-vision.UUCP (Farzin Mokhtarian), Wed Aug 29 21:34:21 1984  
> I am not very clear on this. Why do external appearances make a difference
> in the real world? Do you think it is part of the human nature to prefer
> someone with an attractive external appearance or is it so because one
> learns it from others?  I would appreciate an answer from anyone who
> agrees with what I have quoted.
				      
I think external appearances make a difference because many people try
to impress other people (human nature) and the *easiest* way to do so
is externally -- I mean, how difficult is it to look good?  However,
the definition of an "attractive external appearance" is constantly
changing.  It is learned from others (via television, radio, magazines,
etc).  We are forever being told what the "perfect human" (male or female)
should look like.  Also, I think many people are unable to make their own
decision as to what *they* like in another person because they fear their
peers won't be *impressed* by their selection.

From edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall)  Posted: Mon Sep  3 14:08:24 1984
> It doesn't make much of a difference, does it?  You have to deal on a
> day-to-day basis with people who will be prejudiced toward attractive
> people, and it makes no difference [...]

Look Ed, like it or not, there *are* people who want to know "why" and to
them, it *does* make a difference.

> Personally, I'm not at all happy with this state of affairs.  But, sadly,
> I'll either have to live with it, or become a hermit.

In my opinion, *this* is sad.  I also was unhappy about this "state of
affairs" so I decided *not* go along with it.  A rebel?  Naw, it's just
that if something makes me unhappy, I deal with it rather than let it
keep bothering me.  If we only are here once, doesn't it make sence to
keep yourself as happy (content) as possible?  My close friends are like
me in that they put very little emphasis on appearance.  We *never* try
to impress each other with anything (except, perhaps, witty remarks :-).

In general, I guess what I'm trying to say is if you're not happy with
something, at the very *least*, you should make an *attempt* at trying
to correct the problem (and it *is* a problem).  However, if it's too
late to change, or you just plain don't care, everything I've just said
could just as well have been sent to /dev/null (again :-).

							Jeff Forys

...and the results were most illuminating, the penguins' scores were
   consistently equal to those of the non-english speaking group.