Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!randvax!edhall From: edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: RE: Re: External appearances Message-ID: <1974@randvax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9-Sep-84 08:41:02 EDT Article-I.D.: randvax.1974 Posted: Sun Sep 9 08:41:02 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Sep-84 05:44:20 EDT References: <545@ubc-vision.CDN>, <1965@randvax.UUCP>, <291@sunybcs.UUCP> Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 45 ] From edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) Posted: Mon Sep 3 14:08:24 1984 ] > It doesn't make much of a difference, does it? You have to deal on a ] > day-to-day basis with people who will be prejudiced toward attractive ] > people, and it makes no difference [...] ] ] Look Ed, like it or not, there *are* people who want to know "why" and to ] them, it *does* make a difference. Maybe I'm getting cynical in my old age, but I don't worry much over things that I either can't change or which don't make much difference anyway. (See my next comment.) ] > Personally, I'm not at all happy with this state of affairs. But, sadly, ] > I'll either have to live with it, or become a hermit. ] ] In my opinion, *this* is sad. I also was unhappy about this "state of ] affairs" so I decided *not* go along with it. A rebel? Naw, it's just ] that if something makes me unhappy, I deal with it rather than let it ] keep bothering me. If we only are here once, doesn't it make sence to ] keep yourself as happy (content) as possible? My close friends are like ] me in that they put very little emphasis on appearance. ] . . . . ] Jeff Forys I deal with it by simply not letting it bother me. I maintain my appearance because it suits my professional ends, and because *it_makes_me_happy_to_ do_so*. I don't deal with the issue by avoiding it. My friends put little emphasis on appearance in judging other people (as do I), though they all take reasonable care of their appearance. Why? Because first impressions are important. Because appearance has subtle effects on mood. Because it is part of the culture we live in. Because, like it or not, it helps us achieve goals which are more important than being true to the ideal of ``inner beauty is all that's important''. When I meet someone on a professional basis, I want them to (1) respect me, and (2) be comfortable with me. So I neither under-dress nor over-dress in the same way that I neither ``talk down'' to them nor ``talk up'' to them. And in a looser sense I maintain this attitude on social occasions as well. Most of the people I have to deal with and get along with aren't friends, but people I only see occasionally, or under impersonal conditions. Jeff Forys might be in a different situation, and so may be able to look the I would same at work as on weekends. I have other needs, and other ambitions. -Ed Hall decvax!randvax!edhall