Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ubc-vision.CDN Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision!mokhtar From: mokhtar@ubc-vision.CDN (Farzin Mokhtarian) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Rape fantasies Message-ID: <535@ubc-vision.CDN> Date: Fri, 24-Aug-84 18:13:21 EDT Article-I.D.: ubc-visi.535 Posted: Fri Aug 24 18:13:21 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 29-Aug-84 00:46:07 EDT Organization: UBC Vision, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 28 >Before anyone comes out with their favorite woman-hating conspiracy theory >involving Redbook, I thought I'd submit my fiancee's reaction, as well >as I understand it. > >The fantasy of being forced to have sex would legally be rape if it occured >in reality, but the fantasies referred to in Redbook have little or no >similarity to actual rapes. The male in the fantasy is a specific person, >not some random rapacious bozo off the street. The reason the act would be >forced is not because the woman doesn't have the hots for him, but because >of the real-life consequences if she did do it (doesn't want to get emotionally >involved, husband would be hurt if he found out, etc.). And finally, these >fantasies (masochists excepted) involve none of the sadism which seems to be >the primary feature of real rapes. > >In short, no one should construe these fantasies as evidence that women like >to be raped (which I believe was the concern expressed). > > Smile, > Jeff Winslow No, the male in the fantasy does not have to be a specific person. It could be because she is plain having the "hots". Maybe she feels too guilty imagining herself showing a lot of interest in sex (because of her conditioning) and therefore comes up with the "forced sex" scenario. She wasn't responsible; no need for her to feel guilty. The mind can come up with strange ways. Farzin Mokhtarian < ubc-vision!mokhtar >