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From: jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: a *NEW* topic! Australian Embryos
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Date: Tue, 6-Nov-84 13:46:28 EST
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Posted: Tue Nov  6 13:46:28 1984
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I am pro-choice.  I don't have any problems with implanting embryos
in surrogate mothers.  Once an embryo or a fetus is outside a
woman's body, society can decide what to do with that embryo. Implanting 
an embryo (in another consenting woman) does not violate the donor's
right to control her body, since the embryo is no longer INSIDE
her body.

If our society is interested in preserving the life of fetuses and
embryos, it could be done without infringing on the right of 
women over their bodies.  Fetuses can be aborted alive.  The 
reason they die, is that we have not yet developed the technology
to artificially maintain them.  If the pro-life groups were directing
their energies towards the development of an artificial womb rather than 
trying to impose their morality on others, I don't think we
would be arguing.

Pro-lifers claim that abortion is immoral because fetuses die. Well,
why don't you do something that will prevent the death of fetuses in the
abortion process.  Do something that supports the life of the fetus without
violating the right of a person to control her body.  

The pro-choicers' moral standard differs from the pro-lifers' moral
standard.  We say that it is immoral to coerce a woman to carry her 
pregnancy to term if she does not wish to do so. Let me point out that
the pro-choice moral stance does not try to impose its morality on the
pro-lifers.  On the other hand, the pro-lifers try to impose their 
morality on those who do not to adhere to the pro-lifers' moral standard.

It is rather ironic that many who subscribe to the pro-life
position, claim to oppose big government meddling with our personal
affairs.  I guess that what they want, is to get big government off 
our BACKS, but put it right inside our BODIES.
-- 

Yosi Hoshen
Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
(312)-979-7321
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