Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-ngp.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!kjm From: kjm@ut-ngp.UUCP (Ken Montgomery) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: They finally said it! Message-ID: <1071@ut-ngp.UUCP> Date: Wed, 7-Nov-84 10:30:36 EST Article-I.D.: ut-ngp.1071 Posted: Wed Nov 7 10:30:36 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Nov-84 03:05:03 EST References: <1118@ihuxm.UUCP> <28000019@uiucdcsb.UUCP> Organization: U.Texas Computation Center, Austin, Texas Lines: 27 [] >That is a good question. At what point does a fetus become a child? >As I can see no definite "transition point" I have to say that point is >at conception. > > Brad Andrews Why is conception a 'definite "transition point"'? Conception is not an atomic event. It is, rather, a fairly long process with several stages, notably (medical people please correct me if I'm remembering this wrongly) penetration of the ovum by the nucleus of a sperm cell, migration of the sperm nucleus through the ovum's cytoplasm to the ovum's nucleus, the merging of the two nuclei and the subsequent meiosis, and finally the ejection of the polar body (which contains the other *full set* of genes which, except in *very rare* cases, does not develop into an embryo). At what exact point in the above process is the new person formed? Exactly what is it (physically, not philosophically) about the newly- fertilized ovum that allows one to identify it as a person? -- "Shredder-of-hapless-smurfs" Ken Montgomery ...!{ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!ut-ngp!kjm [Usenet, when working] kjm@ut-ngp.ARPA [for Arpanauts only]