Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sdcc6.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcc6!ir44 From: ir44@sdcc6.UUCP (Theodore Schwartz) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Langauge Evolution Message-ID: <1791@sdcc6.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Oct-84 20:55:23 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcc6.1791 Posted: Tue Oct 30 20:55:23 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Oct-84 09:07:37 EDT References: <13190@sri-arpa.UUCP> Organization: U.C. San Diego, Computer Center Lines: 72 There are some ideas around on why languages become simplified over time as well as why they arrived at some initial point of complexity. It has been suggested that simplification takes place where there is contact between speakers of different languages who must communicate. Pidginization results. In Pidgin languages, and there have been many, such as current Melanesian pidgin English or current Indonesian, a language develops, sometimes to facilitate trade, sometimes where there is domination by one group over the other, or where one population is conquored or enslaved (early American slave English was a Pidgin language). Often part of the vocabulary of the language of the dominant group is combined with a simplified syntax (in the case of Melanesian pidgin, derived from Melanesian). Many grammatical distinctions are dropped, sometimes even number and gender, irregular verbs are regularized, as in "I is, you is, he is, we is, etc." Sydney Ray, early this century, argued that Melanesian languages, were already pidginized and locally developing some new complexities, when they encountered European traders and colonizers. Pidgin English grew up between them, with contributions from both sides and without much conscious planning. Pidgin languages spread wherever Europeans went but with both some carry-over and much local influence in each area, so that Melanesian pidgin includes some features from the China-coast trade pidgin and some words from Portuguese African pidgins (like "pikinini" for child, from "pequen\~a, "little.") Similarly, English is a pidginized language having lost considerable complexity in comparison to other Germanic languages. The next step is to argue that simplification will occur, less rapidly and dramatically, even in response to internal borrowing and exposure to different dialects within a language community. Especially where speech and verbal memory were the pricipal media for communication and storage, differences would develop as a language community became larger and more spread out as well as more internally differentiated by political and other cleavages. Communication across such gradients would also lead to the sort of simplification that would facilitate learning and intercommunication. Conversely, it has been suggested that the greatest phonological and grammatical complexity develops in relatively small, relatively isolated language communities, in part because internal gradients do not develop. Ancient Greek, referred to by my predecessors in this discussion, may have reached maximum complexity during a period when the population was small and relatively isolated and progressively lost this as that population spread, internally differentiated (within the language community) and entered into communication with many groups who learned and simplified Greek. I don't know this-- I'm merely fitting it to the above argument. It could be that this is all we need and perhaps a historian could test it, that complexity either develops or is conserved in relatively small, isolated language groups. Why is this degree of complexity needed in the first place? (A Melanesian language that I know, for example, not only has singular, dual, and plural, but also trial for small sets of persons or objects, not necessarily three, and distinguishes inclusion or exclusion of the person addressed in the first person pronouns). Why the complexity? Who needs it? Obviously such complexity increases the redundancy in the communication of ideas. Each distinction also implies constraints on the selection or identification of referential objects or of other terms. One suggestion for which I can't argue very far, is that for people depending entirely on oral-verbal communication and memory, the additional redundancy may be useful. Much of the grammatical complexity and referential specificity (e.g., no general set of numbers except as inflected by numeral classifiers depending on the many classes of objects counted, such as long, thin objects, animate objects, etc.) Such specificity has proformal functions, that is, the affix tells you something, narrows the range, of the object referred to. It is likely also that small, isolated language communities provide the container within which innovations can accumulate. There must be on-going complexifying processes as well as entropy or we would have nothing but pidgins around. Pidgins, by the way, as you would expect from their minimal redundancy, require extensive circumlocution to achieve the specificity of reference (not only to objects but to more complex ideas) that the more complex languages condense into words.