Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site eosp1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!eosp1!robison From: robison@eosp1.UUCP (Tobias D. Robison) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Diagnosing strategies for humans? Message-ID: <1247@eosp1.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Nov-84 12:34:59 EST Article-I.D.: eosp1.1247 Posted: Fri Nov 9 12:34:59 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Nov-84 09:31:47 EST References: <1339@pucc-h> <1180@eosp1.UUCP> <3102@utah-cs.UUCP> <15636@lanl.ARPA> Reply-To: robison@eosp1.UUCP (Tobias D. Robison) Organization: Exxon Office Systems, Princeton Lines: 39 Summary: This is a followup on the discussion of how doctors reason when doing diagnoses: >I don't think it would alarm anyone who does deductive reasoning a lot. >The method described IS deductive reasoning. As Sherlock Holmes once >observed: 'when all that is impossible has been removed, whatever remains, >no matter how improbable, must be the truth.' This doesn't prevent checking >out the most probable (or the most easily tested) first. Sherlock Homes did not, in my opinion, describe what doctors do. In the first place, many tests are available to doctors, some simple and inexpensive, to rule out the improbable. Usually these tests are not performed until the more likely cases are checked out. A good example is a diseased gall bladder. Its common symptoms are similar (depending upon how people report them) to lower backpain, ulcers, and other forms of gastric distress, including viruses. Doctors almost always will do the more painful, and more expensive ulcer test first (barium X-ray), before checking for gall bladder disease, which is less common. Sherlock Holmes always reasoned on the basis of very little information, but he was careful to collect all he could at a given moment, and then was ready to deduce from that the ONLY possibility, however improbable. Doctors will collect some of the information easily available to them, and then deduce the most probable cause, no matter how many possible causes are still not ruled out. Please recall that I'm not flaming about all this. Anyone who has suffered from one of the less likely possibilities will prefer that more deductive reasoning were used sooner; but I can appreciate that doctors have a system that works a high percentage of time, and also minimizes the number of tests required, at the cost of delaying correct treatment to arelatively few cases. I'm not sure that any alternative would be better. - Toby Robison (not Robinson!) allegra!eosp1!robison or: decvax!ittvax!eosp1!robison or (emergency): princeton!eosp1!robison