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From: herbie@watdcsu.UUCP (Herb Chong, Computing Services)
Newsgroups: net.arch
Subject: Re: Re: B1700
Message-ID: <533@watdcsu.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 23-Oct-84 10:00:34 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct 23 10:00:34 1984
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You say MVS was slower than CP/M, which I agree with, but not having the
tools may be inaccurate.  Having been a systems programmer in an MVS
environment, I know that approximately half the really useful tools are
kept hidden, on principle from the general user.  They tend to do too much
that could violate the security and/or require too detailed knowledge
of things.  MVS is not a fair comparison anyways.  How can you compare
~20 Mb of code to 8-10kb?  Not being aware of the tools and not having them
are two different things.  As for the VM environment, which I work in about
as often as Unix lately, the same goes (except only ~2Mb of code).  Speed
is not a good thing to compare anyway.  The systems you mentioned were
designed for completely different tasks and really is like comparing
apples and oranges.  As for user-accessible tools, I think Unix is the
best I have used, but the documentation for our 4.2bsd makes me wish
that they would have written some.

Herb...

I'm user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble....

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