Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdcsu!haapanen From: haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: leaded vs. unleaded Message-ID: <580@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Oct-84 18:31:24 EST Article-I.D.: watdcsu.580 Posted: Tue Oct 30 18:31:24 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Oct-84 00:31:52 EST References: <1263@drutx.UUCP>, <1194@hou4b.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 54 < Nami nami nami nami ... > > Remember that many largish gasoline-fueled commercial vehicles (smaller > trucks, esp) are still being built with leaded-gas engines. This would > probably keep the market alive for the stuff. > -- > > from Mole End Mark Terribile > (scrape .. dig ) hou4b!mat > ,.. .,, ,,, ..,***_*. Many imports are also running with leaded fuel. Rabbits (except GTI) used leaded fuel, and Audis still do. The market may stay alive, but the question is whether the government is willing to provide fuel at a reasonable price. A 10-cent/gallon, or 2.5-cent/litre surcharge (making leaded fuel slightly more expensive than unleaded) would be understandable; however, I don't think I should have to pay an extra dollar a tankful (I have a 40-litre gas tank) and get nothing in return. Instead, let us examine an alternate solution. Here goes: Problem: Leaded fuel is being used in cars designed for unleaded, because of lower cost. Problem: Many cars require leaded fuel, with its lubricating properties. Solution: Ban the leaded gas as it's known today, instead, allow manufacture of premium leaded fuel, with a 99-octane rating instead of the current 91 octanes. Price this about 15 cents/gallon or 4 cents/litre hugher than current leaded fuel. This will make it more expensive than unleaded, discouraging illegal use. It will, however, allow cars (both factory and home-tuned, where available (Off-road use only in California)) to use a higher compression ratio, achieving greater volumetric efficiency, and thereby producing more performance per dollar, litre and gallon. It would let us see true european high- performance and fuel economy engines with compression ratios in the 10.0 to 11.0 range. I for one am willing to pay extra for my fuel in order to get better performance (OK, Ernie, take .080 off those heads...). I would resent, though, paying that extra dollar per tankful just because some jerks are ruining their catalytic converters with leaded fuel. Tom Haapanen University of Waterloo (519) 744-2468 allegra \ clyde \ \ decvax ---- watmath --- watdcsu --- haapanen ihnp4 / / linus / The opinions herein are not those of my employers, of the University of Waterloo, and probably not of anybody else either.