Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site orca.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!orca!tomk From: tomk@orca.UUCP (Tom Kloos) Newsgroups: net.auto,or.general Subject: Re: Local Cheap Gas Can (Will) Damage Fuel Injected Cars Message-ID: <1155@orca.UUCP> Date: Sat, 10-Nov-84 15:34:57 EST Article-I.D.: orca.1155 Posted: Sat Nov 10 15:34:57 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 11-Nov-84 21:00:36 EST References: Reply-To: tomk@orca.UUCP (Tom Kloos) Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 27 Drop by your local GM dealer and get a copy of their cutomer service newsletter titled "Methanol/Gasoline Blends Pose Potential Problems" dated 1/84. It is quite well written and provides a significant amount of information. (No flames about GM please!) The bottom line is: Be very careful using fuels with alcohol in today's vehicles. Up to 10% ethanol is probably OK. Up to 5% (five!) methanol IF used with a cosolvent and corrosion inhibitor may also be acceptable. However, methanol is generally BAD NEWS with the materials that are optimized to withstand gasoline. Unfortunately methanol is cheaper than ethanol, so gasoline supplies prefer it. As for Oregon permitting 30% alcohol, GM claims EPA only allows 12%. Higher concentrations might be possible if a permit is issued from the EPA. It might be a good idea to contact the EPA if you suspect a problem with the fuel you've purchased. A study in the mid-west found that blenders sometimes exceeded the limits. I doubt that Arco's gas is really any dirtier than most, but when I was using "Burnsahol" (10% ethanol in Chevron unleaded) I found the fuel filter filled up with rust and junk MUCH more rapidly. I suspect it was loosening a lot of junk from the car's tank, fuel system, and maybe the dealers tank. -Tom Kloos, Tektronix, Wilsonville, Oregon Ignore paths in header. Use this: uucp: ..{ucbvax,decvax,uw-beaver,hplabs,ihnp4,allegra}!tektronix!orca!tomk