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From: geoff@desint.UUCP (Geoff Kuenning)
Newsgroups: net.bicycle
Subject: Re: Why I blow off STOP signs
Message-ID: <204@desint.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 8-Nov-84 03:34:41 EST
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Posted: Thu Nov  8 03:34:41 1984
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In article <188@ucsbcsl.UUCP> forrest@ucsbcsl.UUCP writes:

>It's worse than the L.A. freeways because everyone goes too fast and
>there are no stop signs or traffic lights at intersections. There have been
>some terrible accidents were people have been seriously wounded. I even
>remember a rumor that someone died as a result of a bike accident.

There is a death approximately every other year on the Hermosa Beach
Strand, where they refused to build a bike path to connect with the other
20 miles in LA.  The cyclists share the sidewalk with everyone else, with
disastrous results in the summer.  I believe they are currently installing
some sort of surface inimical to all wheeled traffic.

One point about busy four-way stops:  I find it useful to go simultaneously
with a car.  This provides a "large object" for other drivers to see;  and
on at least one side it will protect me from being hit.  I get dropped in
the middle of the intersection, but by then I am in a position where
drivers are more likely to see me.
-- 

	Geoff Kuenning
	First Systems Corporation
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