Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: net.crypt Subject: Re: article in net.general Message-ID: <4565@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Oct-84 17:29:12 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.4565 Posted: Wed Oct 31 17:29:12 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Oct-84 17:29:12 EST References: <63@unc.UUCP> <1784@nsc.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 17 Keywords: ESP, believers, idiotic attitudes > ... I agree, there is no scientifically hard evidence for ESP > these days, but the lack of evidence doesn't prove the lack of the ability. I'm afraid I tend to go along with Phil Karn, mostly. There is no real evidence for the Easter Bunny either, and I'm afraid that in the absence of it, I find I cannot believe in him. Much the same for ESP. Evidence which is not "scientifically hard" may suggest avenues of scientific investigation, but it *cannot* be cited as a substitute for the real stuff when it comes to establishing existence or nonexistence of something. I'm posting to net.crypt because that's where Chuq's comment appeared, but I suggest moving this to net.misc (or maybe net.religion...). -- "Where there's smoke, there's smoke. No further conclusion is justified." Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry