Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site athena.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!teklds!athena!riks From: riks@athena.UUCP (Rik Smoody) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Teaching UNIX Message-ID: <88@athena.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-Nov-84 14:15:14 EST Article-I.D.: athena.88 Posted: Mon Nov 5 14:15:14 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 8-Nov-84 04:07:49 EST Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 29 We are in (dubiously) good company in teaching UNIX to undergrads: I refer to the teaching of law. Folks who study law here in Oregon have a much easier time with Oregon's bar exam than those who study out of state. It's not that general principles are different, but that some FACTS are important too. A master carpenter/contractor knows much more than the physics of wood and iron. Go to your local steel mill and ask for pieces of iron 3.54 inches long and 7/64 inch diameter. They will work for joining pieces of wood which are each 1.77 inches thick (which you carefully calculated as the thickness needed to support your load) I sure would not hire you to build for me. I want a carpenter who buys 2x4's and 16d sinkers (vinyl coated nails). Economics is an important part of most jobs. Compare also the study of medicine: the system is set up such that people are encouraged (forced, usually) to get their internship training in a different place from their med school. But, luckily, bodies work and fail similarly all over the country. And a large part of medical training is pragmatics. There is plenty of room for specialists, but I'd still think twice about a physician who's never delivered a baby nor sutured a cut. And right now, with the computer industry as it is, I'd "wonder" about an undergraduate program which did not include any study of UNIX or closely related system. I'd discount the program until they convinced me that they really did have a good replacement. Rik Smoody