Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site spp2.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwspp!spp2!jhull From: jhull@spp2.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics,net.misc,net.motss Subject: Re: Re: Corrupting youth: Conservative [sic.] Campus Tabloids Message-ID: <223@spp2.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-Nov-84 22:46:09 EST Article-I.D.: spp2.223 Posted: Mon Nov 5 22:46:09 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 8-Nov-84 00:48:52 EST References: <1039@bbncca.ARPA> <76@cadre.UUCP> <666@oliven.UUCP> Organization: TRW, Redondo Beach CA Lines: 71 Xref: sdcsvax net.politics:5050 net.misc:6203 net.motss:1185 > . > > >I agree that from your article it sounds like some of these > >journals have fascist tendencies. I haven't ever seen > >one of these papers, and would wonder if the examples > >you cited weren't one or two individual editors out of > >control, rather than some conspiracy. > > I saw a documentary last Sunday night that addressed the > issues these groups (the radical right) are making a big > noise about. It showed how the radical conservatives have > caused censureship of school materials, the firing of > teachers for including books by Hemingway and Bradbury on > their reading lists, organized book burnings and more. I > even saw one religious leader advocate execution of gay > people. I realized, when I got to this article in the series, that the discussion was branching out beyond the question of the behavior of the press and into a left versus right brangle. I would request all net members to remember that television news teams are responsible to their management for producing a marketable product, not correctly informing the American public on the political and social issues of our times. I would also like to ask, how would you characterize the following behavior: grouping all people to the right (or left) of your position together. If I happen to be moderate in my beliefs and you slightly to the left, then would it be fair to group me with someone who "advocate(s) execution of gay people?" > > It is not an isolated case it is a whole movement. These > people are telling their members that they don't have to be > the majority to get their way, they just have to be the > loudest and the heads of these groups are religious leaders > like Jerry Falwell. > Without defending Jerry Falwell, I request Mr. Pease get his facts straight. Rev. Falwell does not tell his parishioners that the way to "get their way" is to make the most noise. He tells them the way to prevail is to organize at the ballot box. The current anxiety in liberal ranks is due, in part, to the fact that he is doing that very well and to great effect. > > Unfortunately, this is exactly what these groups are trying > to do. They have already destroyed the effectiveness of the > child abuse laws in one state not by legislation, but by > peer pressure. This in spite of the fact that 8 children > died due to child abuse in that state during the year that > these groups campaigned against that states child abuse > laws. > I don't know to what Mr. Pease is referring so I can hardly rebut it. However, it seems to me that one of the primary planks of the religious right is "family rights" and certainly that cannot include child abuse. Is it possible that the legislation was so written as to provide for untoward state intervention in family matters? I don't see how else to reconcile the apparrent inconsistency. > > Robert A. Pease > {hplabs|zehntel|fortune|ios|tolerant|allegra|tymix}!oliveb!oliven!rap Jeff Hull