Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!bbncca!sdyer From: sdyer@bbncca.ARPA (Steve Dyer) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: GAY SATIRE FOR GAYS BUT ALL ARE WELCOME Message-ID: <1124@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Thu, 8-Nov-84 22:32:59 EST Article-I.D.: bbncca.1124 Posted: Thu Nov 8 22:32:59 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Nov-84 04:32:39 EST References: <4159@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 31 I am trying to examine exactly why I disliked this so-called "satire" so much. I found a small part mildly amusing, most of it pretty lame, and the remainder really sad. It reminded me of the articles and columns found in the throw-away "newspapers" available free in some gay bars; dishy/swishy stuff which captures a certain subculture of the gay community. And I realized: this is a kind of "ghetto humor." This is the self- denigrating satire of the 50's and early 60's, which still lingers on today. I think it is important to reaffirm that this ghetto, the worlds of closets, Bette Davis, opera divas, "queens", "fairies", "queers" and drag, or leather harnesses, baths and VD, are but a small part of the gay community, that membership in this ghetto is *NOT* necessary as a gay person. That these are cultural artifices come from terrible decades of oppression and discrimination, and that every gay person is free not to buy into their distortions and lies. I wondered whether I was being humorless. Then I thought about the kind of stereotypes it traded in, if not wholeheartedly embraced: we must choose, as it were, between the swish or the slut. Indeed, though I feel the intentions of the author and poster are well-meaning, the fact remains thay they have presented a gay "BLKTRAN", a similarly demeaning presentation of black people presented on the net a while ago which drew an enormous negative response. It is sad, too, that it comes from within the gay community. -- /Steve Dyer {decvax,linus,ima,ihnp4}!bbncca!sdyer sdyer@bbncca.ARPA