Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!internet!Provan@LLL-MFE.ARPA From: Provan@LLL-MFE.ARPA Newsgroups: net.music Subject: past famous composers Message-ID: <5524@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 31-Oct-84 11:55:18 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.5524 Posted: Wed Oct 31 11:55:18 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Nov-84 20:05:00 EST Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Organization: Ballistic Research Lab Lines: 19 i've heard that argument about composers never being recognized in their own time a hundred times. i'm sure it's true, but i can't help feeling that it masks something going on here. maybe there's a music historian that can help me out here, but has there been a time before where composers were so aware that they'd only become famous after they die? has there even been a period of such intense experimentation? the current trend is to try ANYTHING. i once met a composer who never used octives. the reason, after being boiled down, was that it's been done before. in the composers i used to hang around with, the worst insult you could throw at someone was to say something they wrote sounded like some known work. the renegade in the group was a guy that wanted to write music for movies. the great composers have always had a healthy disrespect for what's come before, but has there ever been such an overwhelming feeling that EVERYTHING from the past should be discarded? are the great composers the ones that don't go too far? there certainly is a lot of slock out there, but i think Copland, for example, is every bit as enjoyable as, say, Beethoven. i can see how someone could say he wasn't as good as Beethoven, but i can't see how someone could say he's garbage or irritating.