Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site uiucdcsb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcsb!robison From: robison@uiucdcsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Could someone explain why FTL is ill Message-ID: <10800009@uiucdcsb.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Nov-84 15:05:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcsb.10800009 Posted: Sun Nov 4 15:05:00 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Nov-84 06:33:11 EST References: <327@mhuxt.UUCP> Lines: 37 Nf-ID: #R:mhuxt:-32700:uiucdcsb:10800009:000:2139 Nf-From: uiucdcsb!robison Nov 4 14:05:00 1984 There is one workable formulation of physics for which there is no speed limit. In classical physics, velocity is a derived unit. It is derived from the fundamental units of distance and time (e.g. furlongs per fortnight). Relativistic velocities in this system do not add linearly, and the sum is always less than C. If a man is running on top of a train at 1/2 C (in respect to the train), and the train is moving at 3/4 C in respect to the ground, the man is not running at 5/4 C in respect to the ground, but rather some speed less than C (10/11 C if I recall correctly). There is, however, another approach. Let TIME and VELOCITY be the fundamental units, and make distance a derived unit. Just as we have a standard meter in the old system, we can have a standard velocity unit in the new system. We could, for instance, stretch a standard guitar-string between two nails at a standard tension. If we strike the string at one end a wave will propagate down the string. We can use the velocity of propagation as our standard unit of velocity. (Of course we will then put it in a glass jar and store it in Paris.) Now suppose we add two velocities. We start with one velocity-standard string and propagate a wave down it. We then take a second velocity-standard and move it along with the wave in the first (so that the wave in the first standard appears stationary to the second standard). We now pluck the string on the second standard to start a wave propagating down its string. The second wave is moving at 2 velocity-units, by our new definition of velocity. Indeed, by stacking up velocity-standards, we can reach any arbitrary velocity we wish. (Note that this velocity does NOT directly correspond to the same velocity in the old system.) The new system actually works (I use it sometimes), and a lot of the relativistic equations are much simpler (e.g. momenta and energy). My freshman physics prof. explained it in class. He also noted if you use it, other physicists wll refuse to talk with you! (Not because the system is wrong, just because nobody else uses it.) Arch @ uiucdcs