Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site amdcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!amdcad!mike From: mike@amdcad.UUCP (Mike Parker) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Re: Why FTL is illegal, in many small words. Message-ID: <228@amdcad.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Nov-84 22:36:59 EST Article-I.D.: amdcad.228 Posted: Fri Nov 9 22:36:59 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Nov-84 10:20:35 EST References: <327@mhuxt.UUCP> <8130@watarts.UUCP> <333@mhuxt.UUCP> <713@sdcsla.UUCP> Organization: AMDCAD, Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 45 > > > So (without relativity), if you have two observers moving relative to > each other, and they measure different speeds of light, which would be > correct? For example, if observer "A" (female) is moving toward Earth > at 100,000 km/sec, and observer "B" (male) is on Earth, and they each > (simultaneously) shoot a 1-second laser pulse at the other: > > A--> <--B (approaching at 100,000 km/sec) > > [Presumably they have synchronized their watches and agreed beforehand > on when to fire their lasers, and they time the interval between when > they fire and when they receive the other's light pulse.] > > A would (in non-relativistic Universes) see the light from B moving > at a speed greater than the speed of the light which she sent to B. > > A: "My light pulse left at 300,000 km/sec, but I measure B's > pulse as approaching me at 400,000 km/sec." > B: (ditto) > > So A would expect her pulse to reach B after B's pulse reached her. > And likewise, B would see A's light moving faster than B's own pulse. > > A: "Since B's pulse left at the same time as mine, and his > pulse is traveling faster, he must have received my pulse > after I received his." > B: (ditto, change gender of pronouns) > > When they meet, each believes the other's light was travelling > faster, and thus that the other one will have recorded a longer > time-interval between firing and detection. > > > -- Larry West, UC San Diego, Institute for Cognitive Science Ah, Excuse me, but, you see, I'm new to the net and I don't understand. All this talk about boys and girls ( men and woman, if you insist ) and how fast their pulses are. I thought I was reading net.singles but this shooting at each other with lasers sounds rather aggressive. Is there a group for S&M?????? Mike at AMD