Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site oliven.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!amd!qumix!qubix!ios!oliveb!oliven!rap From: rap@oliven.UUCP (Robert A. Pease) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.misc,net.motss Subject: Re: Corrupting youth: Conservative [sic.] Campus Tabloids Message-ID: <666@oliven.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Oct-84 16:07:01 EDT Article-I.D.: oliven.666 Posted: Tue Oct 23 16:07:01 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Oct-84 03:22:55 EDT References: <1039@bbncca.ARPA> <76@cadre.UUCP> Organization: Olivetti ATC, Cupertino, Ca Lines: 63 . >I agree that from your article it sounds like some of these >journals have fascist tendencies. I haven't ever seen >one of these papers, and would wonder if the examples >you cited weren't one or two individual editors out of >control, rather than some conspiracy. I saw a documentary last Sunday night that addressed the issues these groups (the radical right) are making a big noise about. It showed how the radical conservatives have caused censureship of school materials, the firing of teachers for including books by Hemingway and Bradbury on their reading lists, organized book burnings and more. I even saw one religious leader advocate execution of gay people. It is not an isolated case it is a whole movement. These people are telling their members that they don't have to be the majority to get their way, they just have to be the loudest and the heads of these groups are religious leaders like Jerry Falwell. >The remedy, in any case, should lie in the civil courts and not the >criminal ones, or worse, new legislation. The first amendment >guarantees of freedom of speech are far more precious than >any damage that can be done by their abuse by any group, >be it Nazi, KKK, etc. even if they make racial or relgious >slurs. Once laws are in place limiting the rights of >free speech, they can be used by the State against whomever >they choose, and usually they end up being used against >dissenters and members of minorities by governments. >Nothing could be more likely to make this country >fascist. Unfortunately, this is exactly what these groups are trying to do. They have already destroyed the effectiveness of the child abuse laws in one state not by legislation, but by peer pressure. This in spite of the fact that 8 children died due to child abuse in that state during the year that these groups campaigned against that states child abuse laws. >I think most students can recognize these people as >lunatic fringe, and the most appropriate response is >saying so and loudly. If someone has been harmed >directly, libel suits and other civil actions can >tie up the editors in court and make things unpleasant >for them. The greatest need will be to find volunteer >attorneys who will help file these suits, and >harmed parties who will take time to complain. > > G. Banks I do agree, but be careful. I read some time ago about one group that beat the system for a long time because they harassed the publishers, editors and reporters of papers and magazines that published articles accusing them of something wrong. This was a "religious" group! -- Robert A. Pease {hplabs|zehntel|fortune|ios|tolerant|allegra|tymix}!oliveb!oliven!rap