Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!ihnp4!bbncca!msimpson From: msimpson@bbncca.ARPA (Mike Simpson) Newsgroups: net.motss,net.politics Subject: Re: Ronald Reagan's Homophobic Career Message-ID: <1075@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Mon, 29-Oct-84 10:49:38 EST Article-I.D.: bbncca.1075 Posted: Mon Oct 29 10:49:38 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Oct-84 01:41:52 EST References: <1057@bbncca.ARPA> <2809@ucbvax.ARPA> <505@tty3b.UUCP> <2877@ucbvax.ARPA> Reply-To: msimpson@bbncca.UUCP (Mike Simpson) Followup-To: <505@tty3b.UUCP> (<2877@ucbvax.ARPA>) Distribution: net.motss,net.politics,net.misc Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 54 In article <2877@ucbvax.ARPA> medin@ucbvax.ARPA (Milo Medin) writes (Milo's statements are preceded by '>+>' ): >+> First of all, this seperate but unequal stuff is BS. Black people >+> arent doing anything wrong by being black. Race is no reason >+> to segregate, and the Bible says nothing about people of different races >+> being inferior, quite on the contrary, it calls for brotherhood and >+> equality in God's sight. There is no excuse for rascism, its a >+> sin just like homosexuality. But homosexuality is a sin, and >+> we should treat it that way and say that its ok. All this talk >+> about people being born homosexuals is just BS. Its a diliberate act >+> of choice. And as such, its a violation of God's laws. Period. One of these days, we'll all 'wake up' and be able to separate sexuality from religion. Milo, I don't follow what you're saying here. Racism is discrimiation against someone on the basis of his/her skin color or national origin. Homosexuality is not discrimination, unless you claim that I am discriminating against a straight woman by not going to bed with her. :-) >+> Now a homosexual can realize he's sinning and repent, and ask for >+> forgiveness just like any Christian has done. We all sin, the difference >+> is whether you admit to the sin and are sorry, or you blatently declare >+> that you are not breaking law. And thats what I am opposed to, because once >+> society views homosexuality as being normal, its not considered >+> a sin, and therefore man views get more and more seperated from God's >+> view. That's my point. Thats the reason I wouldnt discriminate >+> against a homosexual, because people have the freedom to do what >+> they want, and suffer the consequences, good or bad. But its >+> the societal impact that I'm concerned with. First, I would much rather do my own thinking than have God do my thinking for me. Second, if people have the freedom to do what they want, why are you so concerned about what they do? As long as they are not trying to force their views upon you, they should be free to do as they wish. As a gay male, and as a person of color, I don't believe that because I am gay (or Black), I have a 'right' to certain things. However, I do believe that as an American, I have a 'right' to freedom of association, job opportunity, etc. Finally, I invite you to elaborate on the 'societal impact' of not viewing homosexuality as a sin. Oh yeah, almost forgot. I plan to vote for Reagan. -- >> don't shoot me, I'm just trying to be rational ... << Mike Simpson, BBN msimpson@bbnccf (Arpanet/Internet/CSNet) {decvax,ihnp4,ima,linus,masscomp,sunybcs,wjh12}!bbncca!msimpson (Usenet) 617-497-2819 (Ma Bell)