Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Public Goods--econ lesson for renner, glosser Message-ID: <4582@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Nov-84 21:29:48 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.4582 Posted: Sun Nov 4 21:29:48 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 4-Nov-84 21:29:48 EST References: <450@wucs.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 37 Paul, Only a consequentialist would worry about whether the disired consequences would arise from his political philosophy. Non-consequentialists do not find this dubious at all -- as you well know. This does not answer the real question of public goods -- how to decide whether we should produce any at all. Under laissez-faire capitalism there is no particular problem with this decision; somebody just decides to produce these goods or doesn't as the case may be. When you get into government production of public goods, however, the case of ``what to produce'' is of great importance. Even if a government production of nuclear weapons is most ``pareto economical'' this fact will mean little to those who are totally opposed to nuclear weapons of all sorts. Calculating the benefit of a public good may be impossible. Saying that ``the actual benefit of an electrical company is XX due to pollution effects'' is misleading. In any pollution talks there are always people who think that they have been damaged a great deal and other people who feel that the damage is slight. Still others feel that the damage is significant, but well worth paying because of the other effects of the industry. Any figure that you come up with will have to be some person's opinion of the value of the public good. Assuming that I have the pollution rights to my own land, I could make an industry pay when their pollution increased beyond what I felt was acceptable. (This, of course, assumes that I can objectively prove that they are polluting that much in the first place. Crying wolf is not allowed.) If I do not have the pollution rights of my own land, I may get stuck with what somebody else's opinion. Given that opinions can be bought, either by cash or by votes, this prospect does not please me. Laura Creighton utzoo!laura