Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site godot.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!bruce From: bruce@godot.UUCP (Bruce Nemnich) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Theft, taxes, and Libertarianism Message-ID: <363@godot.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Nov-84 01:12:13 EST Article-I.D.: godot.363 Posted: Sun Nov 4 01:12:13 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Nov-84 03:36:23 EST References: <1775@inmet.UUCP> <212@oliveb.UUCP> Reply-To: bruce@godot.UUCP (Bruce Nemnich) Organization: Thinking Machines, Cambridge, MA Lines: 24 Summary: In article <212@oliveb.UUCP> jerry@oliveb.UUCP (Jerry Aguirre) writes: >Most of the discussion on Libertarianism says that crimes should be tried >as civil cases. That is if I pollute the river that flows onto your >property then you should sue me for damages. > >How does someone sueing me differ from the government taxing me? In >both cases money is being taken from me against my will. Is it not >theft because an individual instead of a government gets the money? > > Jerry Aguirre @ Olivetti ATC Are you asking this seriously? I don't see a smiley face. It is completely different. In your scenario, you have devalued his property, and you are being (assuming judgement is held against you) asked to compensate him for the damage. If you hadn't destroyed or devalued what was not yours, neither he nor anyone else would have a claim against you. If the government taxes, you'll pay regardless of whether you did anything wrong. -- --Bruce Nemnich, Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge, MA ihnp4!godot!bruce, bjn@mit-mc.arpa ... soon to be bruce@godot.arpa!