Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: The Chronic War-Preparers Message-ID: <327@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-Nov-84 09:15:44 EST Article-I.D.: whuxl.327 Posted: Mon Nov 5 09:15:44 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Nov-84 06:37:19 EST References: <362@tjalk.UUCP> <2752@ucbcad.UUCP> <300@whuxl.UUCP> <208@oliveb.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs Lines: 45 Response to some remarks by Jerry Aguirre: > I hear a lot of people proposing that large stockpiles of nuclear > weapons are increasing the chances of a war. How can you justify this > belief given the fact that most of the wars occured before the invention > of nuclear weapons. This includes two "World Wars". > There are two aspects of the current nuclear arms race that increase the chances of a war. One is that arming to the teeth and cocking the trigger makes both sides more nervous and apt to take quick irrational responses. If both sides are whipping their citizens into a frenzy with fear of the other side in order to build more weapons then hotter rather than cooler heads are more likely to prevail. Both sides are more distrustful and suspicious of the other. Both sides point to the others arms buildup to justify their own. It was very stupid for the Russians to shoot down the KAL airliner. But such incidents become far more likely when both sides are on edge and moving away from agreements to limit nuclear weapons towards arming to produce and deploy more nuclear weapons. The second aspect that increases the chances of a war is that we ARE "cocking the trigger". Many Americans can remember our own sense of fear and dread when the Soviets stationed nuclear missiles in Cuba 90 miles away. We are currently stationing missiles in Europe which have the capability of hitting Moscow in 10 minutes. Reducing the time between when nuclear weapons are launched and when they hit their targets reduces the time to consider whether an attack should really be made in response to indications of an opposition attack. It makes the nuclear fuse shorter, just as cocking the trigger of a gun makes it far more likely to go off. > Granted the effects of a nuclear war would be longer lived. I am not > convinced that more people would be killed. A conventional WW3 could > easily kill as many people as a nuclear one. It would just take > longer. Some basic facts: the destructive power of ALL of World War 2 amounted to 3 megatons. The destructive power of the nuclear arsenals of the US and Russia amount to 18,000 megatons-- 6000 World War 2's. This only considers sheer explosive power and does not include such effects as radioactivity, destruction of the ozone layer, the possibility of a Nuclear Winter, the fire storms that would be created by atomic blasts and wreak additional destruction. > > Just read descriptions > of the events leading up to any war. There was always plenty of time to > consider events and take action to prevent war. The wars happened any > way. Wars happen and will continue to happen when people convince > themselves that it is to their advantage to go to war. > NOW is the time to react to Reagan's arms buildup and try to stop us from moving headfirst into war. Before it is too late..... Tim Sevener whuxl!orb