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From: cjk@ccice2.UUCP (The human frog)
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Subject: Re: Ronald Reagan's Homophobic Career
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Date: Wed, 7-Nov-84 18:04:04 EST
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> > Good Grief.  Cant you people ever realize that some of us have
> > religious feeling about homosexuality that is a valid reason
> > to fight against the 'normalization' of homosexuality?  [MILO MEDIN]
> 
> What gives any belief system (or any group of adherents to a belief
> system) the right to "denormalize"/outlaw/prohibit any set of behaviors
> that doesn't interfere with or harm other human beings?  If anybody
> has that "right" now, it's a right worth taking away.
> 
Rich, I think you're a little confused here.
I'm surprised you haven't heard about the small sect of Californians
who consider being gay to be of high religious significance.
Their fight against the normalization procedure is simply to 
preserve purity of form.  The only problem that I can see with this
is that their views become so introverted that they lose the part
of their brains' that are used for spelling and grammar. 

> > Certainly if a covicted rapist were wandering about trying to get
> > special protection, most people would fight against this.  And thats
> > the same way with this homosexual rights movement (gay is a 
> > colloquialism design to be more palatable), and people who
> > feel like I do will deal with it accordingly.  
> 
> If the prison system had the means to truly psychologically rehabilitate
> rapists/murderers/ALL those who feel they have some sort of right to
> interfere in other people's lives, then "protection" for such
> rehabilitated people would be warranted, NOT to allow them to re-engage
> in their anti-human activities, but rather to live their lives in peace.
> What anti-human activities are homosexuals guilty of?  (By the way, I
> thought "gay" was used not to make things more "palatable" for those
> like you---it hasn't and it won't---but rather as a self-descriptive term
> to provide a positive self-image for gay people, as opposed to the malicious
> and/or more clinical terms.)
> 
Rich, I think you've missed the point.
The point Milo makes about convicted rapists clearly and convincingly
proves that special rehabilitation centers should be established for
gays.  That is why we have begun the Discipline Center for Correct
Thought.  Our first location will be in San Francisco.  What's more,
the term gay simply came from the creators being 'a'ltered g'u'ys;
thus 'gays'.  I'm sure Milo knew this.

> > I wont discriminate against someone in the
> > workplace on this issue, but I sure wiull fight to keep society
> > from considering this a normal sort of thing.  
> 
> Let's also be sure to make sure that anything else that we "just don't
> like" is also not considered by "society" to be "a normal sort of thing".
> ("Get that raw fish and seaweed out of your mouth---you're goin' to jail!")
> 
Rich, I just don't see what raw fish has to do with Ronald Reagan.

> > It's about time people saw this for what it really is, a disgusting act
> > of perversion of nature.
> 
> I assume the author is referring to his own vindictive arbitrary hatred.
> Disgust is in the eye of the beholder.  What give such beholders the right
> to impose behavior standards on beholdees?  And, if nature is "what happens
> in the real world", how can anything that actually happens be a perversion
> of nature?  Or are only one person's specific views on what is "natural" the
> basis for guidelines?
> -- 
Rich, I have to disagree with you on this one.
I think it's quite obvious that a bee keeper should be able to 
enforce how visitors hold his bees.  Milo has hit the nail on the
head; but then I don't suppose you've ever had a bee drop pollen on you.
Take my word for it, it is truly a "disgusting of perversion of nature."

> Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen.
> 					Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr