Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site uiucdcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!renner From: renner@uiucdcs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Government waste Message-ID: <29200163@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Nov-84 19:01:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.29200163 Posted: Fri Nov 9 19:01:00 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 11-Nov-84 20:57:28 EST References: <20300001@hpfcla.UUCP> Lines: 59 Nf-ID: #R:hpfcla:-2030000100:uiucdcs:29200163:000:2705 Nf-From: uiucdcs!renner Nov 9 18:01:00 1984 > 'Professor Ronald Nash...points out that the United States > spends $250 billion a year to fight poverty. This is enough > to make an annual payment of $34,000 per year to each family > below the poverty line. Black economist Thomas Sowell points > out that the amount to raise every family above the poverty > line has been calculated and in total it amounts to one-third > of the amount spent to fight poverty.' Well, I hate to resort to using facts in net.politics. But I've done it before, and some people claim to appreciate it. So here are some numbers on federal programs which take money from taxpayers and give it to individuals, always in the name of "helping the poor and needy." Actual outlays for Fiscal 1982, in millions. (Source: Congressional Quarterly Almanac, Feb. 5, 1983, p.251 Health care services 68,350 Social security 161,805 Other income security programs (*) 67,351 ------------------------------- ------- Total transfer payment programs 297,806 (*) Income security programs include unemployment compensation, housing assistance, and food stamps That's a lot of money. Of course, not much of it goes to poor people. The largest part of it goes to the well-paid civil servants who run these programs, and to people over 65 who are not poor. Now let's consider the poor. Turn please in your copy of the U.S. Statistical Abstract, 1982-83, to page 446, where we find: Number of individuals (in families or unrelated) under the poverty level as of March 1981. Only cash income considered 12.9 million Aggregate income deficit (ie, total $ needed to bring all of these people to the poverty level) $29,700 million Wow! That works out to about $23,000 per poor person in transfer payments. The federal goverment clearly spends enough money on programs advertised as "helping the poor" to obliterate poverty. Lots, lots more than necessary. Yet there is clearly poverty in the US, seemingly untouched by federal spending. Is the federal government interested in reducing poverty? I don't think so. I think the purpose of these programs is to provide political power to those who support them in Congress. It's a simple recipe: take a little (well, actually a hell of a lot) of money from everyone, skim off a BIG slice for the civil servants, and hand it out to people likely to vote for you. Make sure that you don't actually *do* anything about poverty, else you have no reason to continue the scam. The problem is not that we don't spend enough money on social programs. The problem is that most of the social programs are not aimed at the poor. Scott Renner {ihnp4, pur-ee}!uiucdcs!renner