Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: "God Cannot..." Message-ID: <211@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Oct-84 12:10:58 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.211 Posted: Tue Oct 23 12:10:58 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 24-Oct-84 04:14:50 EDT References: <239@qantel.UUCP> <1094@ihuxm.UUCP>, <243@qantel.UUCP> <1098@ihuxm.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 26 Mike Cherepov discovered something very interesting there when he pointed out how many people are claiming "God cannot see beyond man's [sic] sin", "God cannot allow sinners to share in a happy afterlife", "God cannot provide everything that everyone would like". Obviously, saying "God cannot" places limits (imposed by the speaker) on the power of god (who is supposed to be omnipotent---without limits to its power). These limits sound like what the speakers would desire these limits to be. God cannot allow sinners a happy afterlife, because that would make my whole viewpoint on reward/punishment invalid. God cannot provide everything that everyone would like, because that would eradicate my notion of a puritan work ethic, which claims that god rewards only those who work. God can't see beyond a person's sin because doing so would invalidate my concept of the unworthiness of humanity and treat sinners equally with pious people like me, and I don't accept that. If these people had said "God does not", one could ask them where they got their information, where they found the list of things god does and does not do. But they clearly exclaim "CAN NOT", which to me means that either god is not omnipotent or (more likely) that they are (once again) choosing certain things they would like to see in the world (justice, punishment, etc.) and TELLING GOD WHAT TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS *DO* EXIST. "No, god, stop rewarding that sinner over there. Reward me instead. I'm a good person." -- If it doesn't change your life, it's not worth doing. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr