Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!wjh12!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!mangoe From: mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: How do you know Message-ID: <470@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Oct-84 12:42:20 EST Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.470 Posted: Fri Oct 26 12:42:20 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Oct-84 05:58:16 EST References: <420@uwmacc.UUCP> Reply-To: manGoe@maryland.UUCP (Charley Wingate) Distribution: net Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 28 The question of how one "knows" God is not new, and in the interests of education and better understanding (another overworked word) I will try to briefly present the "traditional" position. We are all aware that the word "know" in English contains lots of not really well related meanings. So when we see in the Bible the phrase "Be still, and that I am God," what does it mean? Protestant tradition has consistently rejected the interpretation that we mean knowledge of the scientific or historical type. To say that we know God in the same way that we know the laws of physics is to imply that we can understand how God works, and that we can understand all his motives. God being infinite, however, there is no reason why we should presume to be able to understand Him, and scripture constantly denies that he is knowable in this way. It is also not really justifiable to say that we know God in the same way that we know about the attack on Pearl Harbor. The historical evidence is thin and by the usual standards is not reliable; scripture indicates that this is in fact intended. We are left with the possibility of knowing God in the way that we know our parents, the form expressed in French by the verb "connaitre": knowing God as a person. The theologians claim that this is in fact the way that we can know God, and it becomes clearer when we rephrase the initial quotation as "Be still, and RECOGNIZE that I am God." We know God not by historical facts, not by scientific observation and deduction, but by recognizing him in his traces in the world, and sometimes face to face. Charley Wingate umcp-cs!manGoe