Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ulysses.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!smb From: smb@ulysses.UUCP (Steven Bellovin) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Other Spiritual Paths: BOOK LIST Message-ID: <1042@ulysses.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Oct-84 14:35:08 EST Article-I.D.: ulysses.1042 Posted: Mon Oct 29 14:35:08 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Oct-84 01:21:15 EST References: <1467@qubix.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 34 > From: lab@qubix.UUCP (Q-Bick) > Subject: Re: Other Spiritual Paths: BOOK LIST > Message-ID: <1467@qubix.UUCP> > Date: Fri, 26-Oct-84 15:12:26 EST > > > 5. `Real Magic' by P.E.I. (Isaac) Bonewits, Creative Arts Book Co., > > 1971, revised 1979 (paper). > > this is the guy who got a B.A. in Magic, from UC-Berkeley, > > legitimately, back in the '70's. > > A degree in Magic? There aren't that many aspiring prestidigitators out > there, so I can only conclude that a *state-supported* school has > established a religion. > -- > The Ice Floe of Larry Bickford > {amd,decwrl,sun,idi,ittvax}!qubix!lab Come now... Anything, from magic as a sociological phenomenon to magic as a religion to christianity as a religion is a fitting subject for academic inquiry. The only constraint I'd apply is that the matter be studied academically, not theologically. There are many religion departments at secular (and state-supported) universities; they're merely a recognition that religions exist, and have had significant impacts on society, philosphy, etc. It would be discriminatory to say that such departments were allowed to study Christianity only, or "Judaeo-Christian" [sic] religions only. I don't even object to *objective* study of religion in lower grades, though I think it would be a poor idea. Even at the university level, many students can't handle the conflict between academic opinions and their own religious beliefs; I'd hate to see what would happen to an elementary-school teacher who (for example) questioned the authorship of the Torah (Five Books of Moses). --Steve Bellovin