Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 / QGSI 2.0; site qubix.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!sun!idi!qubix!lab From: lab@qubix.UUCP (Q-Bick) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Historical veracity (?) Message-ID: <1483@qubix.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Oct-84 16:06:01 EST Article-I.D.: qubix.1483 Posted: Mon Oct 29 16:06:01 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Oct-84 06:05:58 EST References: <229695fe.708@apollo.uucp> Organization: Quadratix ... Quartix Lines: 42 > W. Christensen > [Schweitzer's] essential conclusion? There is NOT ONE SHRED of physical, historical, > or any other reliable kind of verifiable evidence that such a person as > Jesus ever actually existed. The marvelous thing about this is that this > conclusion did not shake Schweitzer's FAITH one iota. While honestly admitting > that there is no evidence whatsoever for the existence of Jesus, Schweitzer > continued as strongly as ever in his belief in the SPIRIT of Christianity, > which any account of his life amply illustrates. The *shreds* are your argument. The existence of Jesus Christ is one of the best-established FACTS of history. I would refer the reader to the thoroughly documented _Therefore, Stand_ by Wilbur Smith, perhaps the most outstanding apologetic of this century. Even such an anti-Christian as H.G.Wells gave scores of lines to Jesus of Nazareth in his _Outline of History_. And the evidence was compelling enough for a skeptic such as Lew Wallace (while writing a book to "forever destroy Christianity") to break down and cry out "My Lord and my God!" [You may better remember Wallace as the author of _Ben-Hur_.] > > [Mr. Samuelson again...] > > Now, if the disciples couldn't get the body, and their enemies > > couldn't produce it, and it couldn't walk away on its own accord, > > what happened to it? > Trying to demonstrate the validity of Christianity as a viable moral and > philosophical system via corpus delecti is pathetically absurd. I submit that > such sophomoric silliness is quite apt to give all Christianity a bad name. Quite the contrary. Disprove the Resurrection and Christianity is kaput. Further, the title for pages 359-437 of _Therefore, Stand_ reads: THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST FROM THE DEAD: THE APOLOGETIC FOR AN AGE DEMANDING HISTORICAL CERTAINTY Hardly "pathetically absurd." -- The Ice Floe of Larry Bickford {amd,decwrl,sun,idi,ittvax}!qubix!lab You can't settle the issue until you've settled how to settle the issue.