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From: jnelson@trwrba.UUCP (John T. Nelson)
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Subject: Re: Re: Response to Tim Maroney - The character of God.
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Date: Mon, 29-Oct-84 22:04:48 EST
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	[Ken Nicholls on Hell]
	Well, I suppose to you it might not seem a privilege, but it is
	to me.  It is also a fact that in the end every man will give
	God glory whether or not he wishes to.

I see.  God will use us like puppets to praise him, whether we
consciously want to or not.  The reason that every knee shall bend
before your god is because everyone else will be burning alive for
sins they never knew they committed.

I don't really care to worship a god that practices blackmail.  Not
because of "sinfull rebellious pride", your three favorite words Mr.
Nicholls, but rather because only a God that practices justice and the
truth is worthy of worship.  Your God is a monster who threatens
potential worshipers through blackmail.

A truly just and holy god understands and respects his creations.
Understanding them, he would judge them according to their own beliefs,
experiences and performance on earth... and reward them accordingly.
Not like a master rewards an obedient dog, but like an artist is
rewarded with what he desires through his work, a thing of beauty
and truth.  These deserve heaven for what they have sought (but could
never attain) on earth.

Those that opted for the easy path; spouting psuedo-religious nonsense
in defense of a God they didn't understand and had no right to defend,
will not accept the truth because their preconceived beliefs are now
too deeply ingrained.  They worshipped a satanic God with little respect
for life and ready to anhialate man upon man's first transgretion.

It is said, he who thirsts justice will find justice.  He who seeks the
truth will find truth.  Those that are righteous for its own sake will
find righteousness.  And those that seek the deaths and eternal torture
of millions upon millions of people in the name of an imagined God...
will find precisley what they have been looking for all along.

	No, perfection makes God right.  God is also perfect, are you?

Is your God?  God has committed murder... have you?

	God allows Satan to have dominion over the earth for this short
	time (Human history is a short time compared to eternity).
	Man, however, has enough rebeliousness in his own self that he
	doesn't require much help from Satan to make this world more
	and more like Satan would like to see it become.

God allows Satan to continue to deceive man on earth and God allows
his son to be killed without mercy or justice on earth.  Who did you
say was calling the shots?

If man was innocent and without sin (as God created him in God's own
image) then why did man rebel?  If man was duped into disobeying God
then why was God so incredibly harsh in his judgment and punishment?
Why have generations of humans been totally condemned for this one
seemingly so trivial act, which I would like to add was not conceived
of by man or even performed with "rebelliousness" in mind.

Oh I get it, get out of line JUST ONCE and the entire human race burns,
is that it?  Well I have more faith in God than that Mr. Nicholls.

	If you are offended by my writting, you are offended by the
	holiness of God.

I am offended by the arrogance of man.  How dare you claim to be the
spokesperson of God?  Have you consulted with God on every word you
have uttered while on the net?  Are the two of you one in the same?
Should we now refer to God as "The Holy Four-In-One?"

	(I'm not saying I am God's perfect spokesman or anything like
	that here.  All christians are to be the spokepersons of the
	truth about God.)

You're not his spokesperson but you are his spokesperson.

	"...holding forth the                       Ken Nichols
	 word of life..." Phil. 2:16                ...!ucbvax!dual!qantel!ken

This is begininng to grate... like a McDonnald's commercial...


					 No claim to fame
					- John