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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
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Subject: Re: Bill Jefferys on the writing of the gospels
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Date: Tue, 6-Nov-84 13:33:52 EST
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>>Good Grief!!!!!  Don't you people ever READ your gospel?  I John, Jesus says
>>"He who has seen me has seen the Father."  How can that not be a claim to
>>divinity?  And in front of the Sanhedrin (I'm not sure whether in John or
>>Matthew), when they ask him if he is the son of God, he says, "I am."
>>Charley Wingate

> Charley is correct, of course, about what I John says.  However, I
> don't think that it can be relied upon to the same degree that the
> synoptic gospels can as a source of Jesus' actual words, particularly
> in view of the fact that John was written, among other things, to "prove"
> the divinity of Jesus.  When someone has an axe to grind, as John did,
> one is entitled to view what he says with skepticism.  [BILL JEFFERYS]

I just thought that this piece merited reiteration.  It was my understanding
that many Christian scholars do believe that if Jesus existed he may not have
made his own claims to divinity, that those claims were made by those who
followed in an effort to promote the religion that had formulated.  With this
in mind, is it reasonable to consider any of these accounts as infallible
evidence?  (I know:  it's not, but you do anyway... )
-- 
Now I've lost my train of thought. I'll have to catch the bus of thought.
			Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr