Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site trwrba.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrba!jnelson From: jnelson@trwrba.UUCP (John T. Nelson) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Re: More replies to Ken (and general comments) Message-ID: <1089@trwrba.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Nov-84 17:34:42 EST Article-I.D.: trwrba.1089 Posted: Tue Nov 6 17:34:42 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 8-Nov-84 04:14:23 EST References: <488@pucc-k> <> <1791@nsc.UUCP>, <272@qantel.UUCP> Organization: TRW EDS, Redondo Beach, CA Lines: 24 Saving yourself from on oncoming train is quite a bit different than saving yourself from eternal damnation. God wants to save us because he loves us regardless of whether we care about ourselves or not. I see... God condemns us all to eternal damnation and then turns right around and tells us that he loves us. This reminds me of the line Clint Eastwood used in "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly".... "Such ingratitude, and after all the times I've saved your life." It's the same principle. Ken's God is heralded as a savior because he saves us from the punishment of God himself. If he REALLY loved us "regardless of whether we care about ourselves or not" then "He" would take steps to cleanse even the most vile sinner of his faults. Clearly (according to the teachings of Ken Nichols) God will NOT do this. Stop contracdicting yourself Ken, it makes it all the more difficult to hold a...``conversation'' with you. - John