Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cybvax0.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!godot!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Science as Religion (other objections to Wingate's article) Message-ID: <221@cybvax0.UUCP> Date: Thu, 8-Nov-84 13:52:10 EST Article-I.D.: cybvax0.221 Posted: Thu Nov 8 13:52:10 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Nov-84 05:58:37 EST References: <704@umcp-cs.UUCP> <209@cybvax0.UUCP> <770@umcp-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 24 Summary: In article <770@umcp-cs.UUCP> mangoe@maryland.UUCP (Charley Wingate) writes: >[Mike Huybensz] >> If you've really read Bertrand Russell lately, Charlie, you should remember >> that something can be rejected as unlikely, rather than on absolute logical >> proof. There are objective heuristics for guessing relative likelyhood >> such as Occam's Razor. > >Occam's Razor applies to theories; its purpose is to simplify science, not to >make it more "true". It is a highly subjective weapon. If I am told by >someone that their brother rose from the dead last night, is not the >simplest theory that he did in fact do so? The evaluation that one would >normally make would be that the event is "too unlikely"; but how unlikely >IS too unlikely? One makes a highly subjective evaluation. If I am to invoke Occam's Razor to claim something is improbable, it is indeed subjective if I just say "Occam's Razor, so there!" However if I make a comparison of the assumptions required or destroyed by the alternatives, and then conclude with an invocation of the razor, then I have made an objective statement of my reasoning that is subject to confirmation or rebuttal. Selection of the assumptions analyzed by Occam's razor may be subjective, but the use of the razor itself need not be. -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh