Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdcsu!dmcanzi From: dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Meanings of Words Message-ID: <631@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Nov-84 02:43:30 EST Article-I.D.: watdcsu.631 Posted: Fri Nov 9 02:43:30 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Nov-84 07:41:58 EST References: <606@watdcsu.UUCP>, <294@qantel.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 27 '> ' represents Ken Nichols > The problem with these arguments is that you are trying to make man's > definition of these words be the standard for your discussion. In my system > the standards of these words are much higher that a human standard. The most important point I was trying to make in that article is that *we* determine the meanings of the words we use. There is no relationship between the word, "dog", and those furry, four-legged beasts that chase cars and bite mailmen. The word "dog" has no meaning in itself. It's just a noise. But we agree among ourselves to use this particular verbal noise to represent the aforementioned beasts. That is *all* the meaning of a word is: an agreement among its users as to what they will use it for. God's actions do not conform to *our* meanings of justice, love or mercy. If you choose to describe God as just, loving or merciful, then you are making up new meanings for these words. And if you don't define your new meanings, then what you're saying will mean no more to others than "The Gostak distims the doshes". You would do better to inform us as to what *you* mean by these words, or better still, use other words. I will try to respond to the rest of your article when I have more time, but it's damned hard to respond rationally to irrationality. David Canzi "If there is no God, who pops up the next Kleenex?"