Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pucc-h Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!mhuxj!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!CS-Mordred!Pucc-H:aeq From: aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Christ as good man Message-ID: <1463@pucc-h> Date: Fri, 9-Nov-84 04:15:15 EST Article-I.D.: pucc-h.1463 Posted: Fri Nov 9 04:15:15 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 11-Nov-84 20:21:14 EST References: <1899@ucla-cs.ARPA> Organization: High-level Operating Systems Experts [HOSE], Inc. Lines: 28 From ucla-cs!ellen: > Christ must have been a really good man and teacher, tho' i see him as being > as much the son of god as any other person and animal and plant is the child > of the creator.... I hate to disagree with a portion of an article which praised others for showing some Christian love, but I feel I should point out a couple of things (borrowed from "Mere Christianity"): 1. In some religions, it would indeed be nothing surprising for someone to say that he was the son of God, or one with God. But in Judaism, things are not that way, and were not at the time of Jesus's ministry, and never have been; Judaism makes a strict differentiation between God and His creation (Yiri, correct me in case this is inaccurate). When Jesus appeared among the Jews, applying phrases like "Son of God" and "Son of Man" (which I guess to be an allusion to chapter 7 of Daniel), He was calling Himself a lot more than any pantheistic "son of God". 2. If Jesus was not who and what He said He was, then He was either a world- class liar or else a world-class megalomaniac. Funny, though, that demons thought He was what He said, and how people later staked their lives on their faith in Him. -- -- Jeff Sargent {decvax|harpo|ihnp4|inuxc|seismo|ucbvax}!pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq "I'm not asking for anyone's bleeding charity." "Then do. At once. Ask for the Bleeding Charity."