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From: aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent)
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Subject: Sargent briefly comments on Rosen on Samuelson on Rosen
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Date: Sat, 10-Nov-84 09:46:05 EST
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From Rich Rosen (pyuxd!rlr):

> my points may have been "repeated so often", but they usually go unanswered.

I might mildly point out that either a) you have also, at times, left some
points unanswered, or b) the articles containing those points never reached
Piscataway.  Prime example is:  How do you explain the gifts of the Holy
Spirit -- particularly the most common one, most commonly called "speaking in
tongues"?  How do you explain the fact that in May, 1972, a man laid his hands
on me and prayed, and I received the ability to speak without conscious thought
in a language I don't believe I've ever heard?  And I'm not the only Christian
of my acquaintance with this gift.

> My appeals to people I disagree with often take the form of asking them to use
> reasoning capacities that I think they might have to realize either the truth
> in some point of mine or the fallacy in one of theirs.

How about using your reasoning capacities to see the fallacies in some of your
points?  I am going to write a separate article (so it's short, and so it's
more likely to be read) highly recommending a book which, using excellent
logic, shows that it makes sense for there to be someone outside nature -- and
demolishes the idea that the physical universe is all of reality.

-- 
-- Jeff Sargent
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