Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site hou5a.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!hogpc!houti!ariel!hou5f!hou5e!hou5d!hou5a!hbb From: hbb@hou5a.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Shabbat electricity (what is work?) Message-ID: <612@hou5a.UUCP> Date: Mon, 22-Oct-84 11:15:41 EDT Article-I.D.: hou5a.612 Posted: Mon Oct 22 11:15:41 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Oct-84 05:05:09 EDT References: brl-tgr.5198, <348@wxlvax.UUCP>, <1588@ucf-cs.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 27 >Incidentally, when God causes rain on Shabbat, does he contravene >His own Torah (watering grass)? If so, which is imperfect, God or >Torah? Am I alone in thinking that some of these notions are >carried out mechanically to ludicrous extremes? It sometimes >seems that these rules are applied mechanically without the use >of the brain, without questioning their real basis, validity, >authority, etc? The same question could be similarly applied to an extreme case, such as murder. If we contend that G-d causes people to die, then ought we take that as evidence that the Bible is wrong and that we should consider murder as a reasonable course of action? I suppose the author of the article would contend that murder comes under the category of "use of the brain" ("mitzvote sichliote") and, therefore, forbidden. Watering of one's lawn, however, would be deemed lacking in "use of the brain" and permitted - Rabbinic ordinances notwithstanding. The Rabbinic ordinances are legitimate as well as those that are written in the Bible. The Bible itself gives legitimacy to the Rabbinic ordinances in the middle of the book of "Devarim" (Deuteronomy,) the beginning of "Parshat Shoftim" (sorry, I don't know the chapter.) -- Harlan B. Braude {most "backbone" sites}!hou5a!hbb