Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site loral.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcc6!loral!ian From: ian@loral.UUCP (Ian Kaplan) Newsgroups: net.bio,net.origins,net.sci,net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: The missing step -- self-reproducing organisms Message-ID: <644@loral.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-Nov-84 01:17:57 EST Article-I.D.: loral.644 Posted: Mon Nov 12 01:17:57 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Nov-84 05:11:06 EST References: <241@hocsj.UUCP> Organization: Loral Instruments, San Diego Lines: 41 Xref: dcdwest net.bio:113 net.origins:500 net.sci:209 net.sf-lovers:2568 The question raised in the original posting is so complex that it defies any sort of simple answer, so I will keep my note brief (also this is going to multiple news groups, and doubtless cluttering up other wise useful disk space). o There seems to be a fair amount of controversy regarding the probability of live arising out of the primevil soup. The best that can probably be said is that the probability is unknown. o In the last issue of Scientific American there was an article on Prions. Prions are infectious particles which seem to reproduce. They have, as yet, been unable to find any DNA or RNA associated with Prions. If it is indeed finally shown that Prions do not contain DNA or RNA, it suggests that a Prion like form might have been the step between the primeval protiens and a more complex organisum with genetic memory. o Intellegence has survival value, so I do not think that it is a valid assumption that intellegence is rare. o Intellegent life could have arisen many millions of years ago and either progressed on to something else or wiped itself out. o While you are thinking about questions like the origin of life think of this: There is a theory that the universe is cyclic. It arose from the primal monoblock (something like a huge black hole, which contained the entire universe) and will eventually contract into another primal monoblock. From there it will explode again, creating yet another universe. If this creation of new universes goes on without end all things will happen, since there is an infinity of time. Not only will all things happen in this infinity, but they will happen an infinite number of times. This means that even though the possibility of you existing again is infinitely small, in an infinity of time it will happen. I did not want you to run out of philosophical questions to ponder. Ian Kaplan