Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!decwrl!sunny From: sunny@sun.uucp (Sunny Kirsten) Newsgroups: net.sci Subject: Re: Chuq's comments about ESP Message-ID: <1785@sun.uucp> Date: Sat, 10-Nov-84 16:29:37 EST Article-I.D.: sun.1785 Posted: Sat Nov 10 16:29:37 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Nov-84 07:08:20 EST Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 51 > The same is true of ESP. Lack of evidence is sufficient reason to stop > looking (at least stop looking in the places that have yielded no > evidence). It's not beyond the realm of possibility that future > researchers will have a better idea where to look, and may even find > something. If one lived in the middle ages, and set upon a quest to find a computer programmer, one would surely fail. The ability to program was not yet developed, matured, practiced, etc. If one is alive now (how else but by ESP would you read this?), and sets upon a quest to find an ESPer, one will often fail, as the ability is not yet developed, matured, practiced as widely as it will be in the future. If one goes to the back reaches of outer nowhere, and searches for computer programmers even today, one could STILL conclude that programmers don't exist. Yet, to some of us, the existance of programmers is VERY real. It is far easier today to find a lack of ESP than a lack of programmers. IN the furture, this may reverse. For those of us who have experienced ESP, there can be no question of it's existence, but only a question of, how do I learn and develop this phenomena so that I can use it at will, rather than merely experiencing it in a non-reproducible manner. I can never prove to you it exists, or that I experienced it. But there is NO doubt in my mind that it happended. I just wish I knew how to develop the ability to use this form of communication. Just as it would have done me little good in the middle ages to dream of machines which "thought" on their own, so it is today, that it does us little good to "wish" we could all communicate telepathically. Time is required yet. If you can't find the existence of programmers, you're probably not living in silicon valley, where they abound. If you can't find evidence of ESP, you're not looking in the right place. Does anyone know where I should look? Where IS ESP central? Oh... I didn't want to have to die first and return to the spirtual world to find it. I believe we are all spirits incarnated in the material world. I believe ESP is of the spiritual world. Perhaps the "noise" of the material world tends to block ESP (spirit to spirit) communication? Is anyone else interested in searching for more ESP, rather than redundantly trying to "prove" it's current scarcity? I believe people when they say that ESP doesn't exist in their lives. So do I believe when someone claims to have experienced it. The real question is how to experience it more often, by more people, not how many bytes we can waste showing it hasn't happened here. -- mail ucbvax\!sun\!sunny decvax\!sun\!sunny ihnp4\!sun\!sunny<