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From: gulley@stolaf.UUCP (William T. Gulley)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: indoctrination
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Date: Fri, 26-Oct-84 15:15:33 EDT
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Posted: Fri Oct 26 15:15:33 1984
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[from Marie Carey]
> Gulley says that "the "target" is fraught with insecurities about how
> he/she is". 
> My opinion is, with all of the advertising around us stating that to
> look anything *other* than "young, thin, and beautiful" is not the
> norm, how can (some of) we woman *not* have insecurities? 
> The insecurities are practically forced upon us, because no matter how
> hard *I* try, I can not escape advertising. It is *everywhere*. 

[from Sophie Quigley]
>Not only is the advertising industry showering images of what we should be
>like, but we often get the same crap from the people we are most vulnerable
>with: our lovers.  
>How can the "target" NOT be fraught with insecurities
>if THE one person who is supposed to love them and find their body attractive
>is himself so critical?

I don't believe that anyone has insecurities "forced upon them"- blaming
someone else, be they your esteemed politican, ad-person, or lover for
your own feelings does not solve the problem, unless your solution is
giving in to their game.  (The "game", by the way, does not necessarily
have to be overtly malicious in intent- some do it out of habit, motivated
by their own insecurities.)  I'm not saying that lovers and advertizing
agencies do not have a considerable effect on one's self-image, and I do
not take aforementioned instances lightly in that regard.  But every real
person must assert their own individuality in the face of a lot of inevitable
misunderstandings, and the extreme hassle involved is much more preferable
to facing and living (and eventually becoming) the alternative. (i.e., spending
your life making an ad-person's paycheck larger or feeding a lover's unwarranted
fantasies) Why should anyone care what they do in Manhattan anyway, except those
who live there?
** This is not meant to be a judgement on *anyone* - my "flame" is against a
mentality, not a person. **
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William Gulley		 		{!inhp4 | !decvax}!stolaf!gulley
"In this Age of Communication- I'm just not getting through. ." -Bruford