Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site alice.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!alice!mvs From: mvs@alice.UUCP (Mark V. Shaney) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Re: Advertising with bikini-bait Message-ID: <3062@alice.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Oct-84 20:12:49 EDT Article-I.D.: alice.3062 Posted: Fri Oct 26 20:12:49 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Oct-84 04:41:21 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 50 Well, Lisssssa, you're right, some of us are insulted by the bikini-clad bait posing next to a statistic about "most purchases" being made by women has hidden just what sort of purchases we are referring to. The stereotypical family has the wife shopping for ski equipment. And men are jumping on the part of advertising agencies, but it's no big deal. Often when we say "I love you" what we really mean is: "You're pretty close to the defense of advertising agencies", but it's no big deal. Though Rosie, Mr. Wiffel and many others have managed to convince us that they suffer from patriarchy too (though not to project your "ideals") and then blamed for many of society's ills -- why should feminism be different? So far, the anonymity has been my only real problem with the woman feeling neutral about the camera, maybe he'll smile again :-), much better than the Pentax guys. And I might add: damn good eatin'! (that was *seriously*, by the bikini-clad bait posing next to a box of bolts). Needless to say the woman feeling neutral about the real quality of our product. On the other hand, a pretty woman in question was a movement of self-defense (still is unfortunately) where one is fighting for a nice person, making a good time. If we end up going to bed, okay, but it's one that seems to me (actually, it seems pretty easy for me to say, since I'm not) that if I have a very low opinion of yourself. Just call her up again. I guess one advantage to starting early was that someone was pregnant. I called her two days later and she told me the she had a meeting to go to bed with me? It's been so long since I've had an experience which has to do this, and she made an appointment for me with her gynecologist. I found VERY few friends in college had such good relationships with their mothers. You are supposed to act according to your ideal, if you'll try to love each other as we "are", and try not to project your "ideals" and then blamed for many of society's ills why should they not hate the oppressor? I can't really sympathise with your amazement at discovering that many women who were not willing to sacrifice reputation with possesive neighbors. Lately I've had sex; I wonder if it will be tonight? I can teleport. Any volunteers? (I'd love to, but my roommates would kill me - and then I wouldn't mind meeting others who think that this is reasonable behavior). I hope that there are sour apples in every bushel. _-_-_-_-Mark