Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 / QGSI 2.0; site qubix.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!sun!idi!qubix!lab From: lab@qubix.UUCP (Q-Bick) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Indoctrination Message-ID: <1479@qubix.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Oct-84 14:54:35 EST Article-I.D.: qubix.1479 Posted: Mon Oct 29 14:54:35 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Oct-84 06:04:31 EST References: <5390@brl-tgr.ARPA> <1729@nsc.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Quadratix ... Quartix Lines: 32 > [the inimitable Chuq] > The media creates and manipulates the image. One thing going for their > favor is almost everyone goes through a time when they are exceptionally > vulnerable to indoctrination-- adolescense. Peer pressure is exceptionally > high-- Madison avenue simply needs to put the image out, and your friends > (all of which are just as insecure as you are, because all of your bodies > aree changing and your minds and hormones are in chaos) will make sure that > you fall into line, or ridicule you for it. Why do we have such a large > problem with smoking and drugs and drinking and pregnancy during the teen > years? It isn't the tobacco industry or the beer group or this or that, it > is the fact that you go through a phase where you need to belong, and > someone in the group that {sex,drugs,rock&roll,beer,smokes} is how you > belong. The alternative is being ***OUTSIDE***, and that is worse than > death. You may not like it, but you conform. And then, you will likely > conform to some degree the rest of your life. THEY have you. Right on target. But from the discussion I've seen here, I think the media has still successfully pulled a goody. A lot of attention is being paid to commercials and ads - but what about the programs themselves? Those are also conveying values, trying to create and manipulate images. (Or haven't you seen the results on T-shirts, in toy stores & gift shops, etc.? Or, more disastrously, the violence spawned by ideas seen on the tube or the screen?) And they are probably *more* effective, because the viewer is more likely to identify with the character(s) involved therein than with those in a commercial. BTW, this also applies to radio, magazines, and movies. -- The Ice Floe of Larry Bickford {amd,decwrl,sun,idi,ittvax}!qubix!lab You can't settle the issue until you've settled how to settle the issue.