Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site hercules.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!teklds!hercules!archiel From: archiel@hercules.UUCP (Archie Lachner) Newsgroups: net.sport.football Subject: Re: long punt Message-ID: <306@hercules.UUCP> Date: Sat, 10-Nov-84 22:00:41 EST Article-I.D.: hercules.306 Posted: Sat Nov 10 22:00:41 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Nov-84 01:00:35 EST References: <888@ihuxe.UUCP> <13000007@uiucdcs.UUCP> <296@hercules.UUCP> <1515@qubix.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 40 >To quote Jughead, "Sorry, Arch." >The merger didn't occur until after Super Bowl V - otherwise the Colts >(still in the NFL) could not have beaten the Cowboys therein. I don't follow your reasoning regarding Super Bowl V. Please explain. Super Bowl V was played after the 1970 season. Before that season, the AFC and NFC came into being, and the Browns, Steelers, and Colts transferred to the AFC, in order to even the conferences at 13 teams each. The AFL had 10 teams in 1969, its last season. Starting with the 1970 season, the entire pro football organization was known as the NFL, and the name AFL (American Football League) was dropped. However, the AFL and NFL merged to form ONE pro football organization before the 1966 season. The Colts were part of the AFC when they played the Cowboys in Super Bowl V. All of old AFL teams are now members of the NFL! Before the AFL and the NFL merged at the start of the 1966 season, they were in a bidding war for players. For example, John Brodie, then still playing with the 49ers, signed a contract with the Houston Oilers, which was somehow later voided. Al Davis was the last commissioner of the AFL, which explains a lot of the animosity between him and Pete Roselle. Do you honestly believe that the Packers and Chiefs played Super Bowl I as two teams from legally separate and competing pro football organizations involved in a bidding war over players? Perhaps your quotation of Jughead entails more than you realize (sorry, I couldn't resist). Would someone out there in an NFL city call up your local team and ask for a clarification on this for the benefit of those who don't understand that two "leagues" can be part of the same legal entity? -- Archie Lachner Logic Design Systems Division Tektronix, Inc. uucp: {ucbvax,decvax,pur-ee,cbosg,ihnss}!tektronix!teklds!archiel CSnet: archiel@tek ARPAnet: archiel.tek@csnet-relay