Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!aps From: aps@decvax.UUCP (Armando P. Stettner) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: UNIX and real-time and when is UNIX UNIX Message-ID: <115@decvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-Nov-84 15:12:34 EST Article-I.D.: decvax.115 Posted: Mon Nov 12 15:12:34 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Nov-84 08:24:01 EST Lines: 33 From its beginning, UNIX was in a constant state of change. I do not feel that any single version or release typifies UNIX. I feel that UNIX represents a philosophy of implementation and architecture more so than its common services. However, I feel that there is a set of characteristics which is required in order consider a thing a member of the UNIX lineage: open, read, write, seek, close, fork, exec, getuid, setuid, a real hierarchical file system, a shell, etc. What other capabilities a "UNIX System" is given is not important to the question of whether or not the system is UNIX. What maybe more important is how a capability is implemented and how it is presented to a user [process?]. Adding VMS type RMS capabilities (file access methods) to UNIX is not necessarily a bad idea. Doing so will not change whether or not it is UNIX. However, if the implementation means that all files have an RMS file type and files can not be reproduced *exactly* by simply copying their bytes because the system knows more about their structure to begin with or if the implementation means that the output of one program can not be piped into the input of another, it probably isn't UNIX anymore. While I'm on it, 4.2BSD isn't UNIX; neither is 4.1BSD, System V or System III or Version 7 (although I think it is the "real standard"). Even the /usr/group "standard" is not UNIX. These are all UNIX. They are all part of the evolution of UNIX. As I have said before, I believe that UNIX is evolution. To nail down the idea UNIX to some specific implementation is not good. UNIX is a direction or set of directions. For me, it is a way of being. (How's that for existentialism.) If I can get real-time capabilities or the ability to share resources across several machines running UNIX, more power to me, a user. Armando P. Stettner UNIX User.