Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site stolaf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!stolaf!densinge From: densinge@stolaf.UUCP (Charles W. Densinger) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: Re: Rape and Violence Message-ID: <2070@stolaf.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Oct-84 18:52:36 EDT Article-I.D.: stolaf.2070 Posted: Fri Oct 26 18:52:36 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Oct-84 04:43:41 EDT Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield MN Lines: 35 I personally believe that the "desperation for sex" really comes out of profound lonliness and/or fear and/or rage. (Primarily the first two.) Men don't need sex to live. Celibacy is not a suicidal path. Sure, it's a drive, and one that's nice to satisfy, but is is not a need of the calibre that, say, hunger is. I do believe, however, that human contact and nurturing are primary needs that we have.--*nourishment for the spirit*, one might call it. The problem in our culture is that we learn to channel all sorts of funny things into the category of sex that aren't really sex at all, like the need for nurturing. For most of us, it is a lot scarier to admit that we want to be held or touched than that we want to make love. In persons who are proufoundly lonely and in need of human contact, violence can be resorted to. I do not believe, and I will be nearly impossible to convince, that a person with enough close, intimate, loving non-sexual relation- ships in which his/her needs are expressed and met, will resort to violence to get sex. Sex simply is not that important. Also, I will not easily be convinced that anyone ever engages in violence merely for the sake of violence. One violates another person out of some sort of distress or need, in an attempt to relieve that distress. It doesn't work, but that is the motivation. Rape is a violent act. It involves a violation of another person's bodily sovereignty. But violence is only the mode, not the motivator. -Chuck Densinger @ St. Olaf College {decvax|ihnp4}!stolaf!densinge